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jimminyjay
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I'm a huge fan of my canister stove that kicks into high gear with the push of a (igniter)button, and my old Whisperlite is slowly fading out of frequent use. I'd be curious to know what you all are using for fuel.
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hikingcoach |
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Great question. I need to know the results.
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hrothgarbike |
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I find it funny how many people still refer to the Whisperlite. That stove died a decade ago. I found them to be a pain and finicky. Now my Dragonfly is much better. But yeah baby, the Jetboil rocks. I hope to get a new Ti Sol at some point
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skibum14 |
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Liquid fuel most of the time, and I second the Dragonfly. Love it.
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Harry |
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I still use my whisperlite. I will until it dies. Why buy a new stove if the old still works. During the summer, when I don't have to melt snow for water I use a homemade alcohol pop bottle stove. There is nothing that can go wrong with it and it only weighs 3.5 oz.
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hrothgarbike |
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I succomb. Why buy a new one when the old one still works. That is why I got the Dragonfly, and it still works. A+ on the Alcohol. Some day I will make one with a spare tank and a fill line similar to how a Liquid fuel stove works. I think it will only add an ounce or so, but it will extend the burn time infinitely.
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Harry |
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Good idea. The only bad part of an alcohol stove is trying to put it out when the cooking is done. I have a home made snuffer, but it doesn't always work well and so my most common method is simply to fill the aluminum pop can (stove) with the amount of alcohol I think it will take to cook my dinner. If you had fill line a shut off valve would have to be part of the package.
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hrothgarbike |
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So the burn time problem is why I started the thinking on an auxiliary tank and line. Most of the alcohol stoves run for 6 minutes when full, assuming it is filled with fiberglass and of the normal volume. With the aux tank, you could manually meter the flow, which would extend the burn time and if done properly, allow it to burn out when you were finished. I have plans in my head. I want 2 mini Heinekin kegs for the stove. A Pepsi/Coke size is a tick too small and the Heinekin mini keg is the only can I have seen which is larger and more of the pot/pan base size.
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hrothgarbike |
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Of course, we all could just get the Vargo! http://www.libertymountai...roduct.asp?p=4450&c=2081
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John_R |
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Please explain how alcohol stoves work. It seems that it would just have a constant temperature. How fast will it boil water?
I have a whisperlite that still works well for me. Seems like the canister stoves would be more convenient, but don't you just toss the canisters after they are used? How do you know how much fuel you still have?
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hrothgarbike |
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The alcohol stove gets filled from the top side, and burns till it runs out of fuel. http://www.backpacking.net/makegear/stove/ How to make and use one. Cheap and light.
The only way I know how to measure fuel in a canister stove is to weigh the canister. That gives you an idea of what is still in it. |
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dgriverjohnson |
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i'm 100% in favor of the liquid stove. i have the dragonfly too, and have been using it for years. in all that time I have only had to buy 2 bottles to carry fuel in. I don't really want a canister stove since you have to toss the empty one and buy a new one. It seems wasteful to me.
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diego017 |
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Honestly, I still have and use my whisperlite. Bought it 21 years ago and it's still running fine. But it IS just one of 4 stoves I use, depending on what I'm doing.
The others are a JetBoil, a Hank Roberts Mini Mk3, and an ancient 2 burner, cast iron tabletop stove that runs off a BBQ LP can...
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Harry |
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I used to work at a landfill and two things that seem to remain forever after being buried are plastic bags, and hardened anodized metal such as canisters. I'm amazed with the environmental aspect of the out door community that canister stoves were ever invented. They are not recycled since the small amount of gas that remains after use prevents them from being melted down or crushed. Propane tanks in the landfill had to be buried carefully, as they exploded if the compacter crushed them. About one every couple of months a small tank would escape notice and get run over. The explosion reverberated all over the landfill.
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BJaffke |
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hrotharbike: I don't understand why you say the whisperlite is a thing of a decade ago? I've had mine for nearly 5 years now...using it hard, and it still works like it's brand new. It's easy to maintain in the field, and is versatile being able to burn many different kinds of fuel. Best of all the Whsiperlite International is $30 cheaper than the dragonfly. For the same price as the dragonfly you can get the new Whisperlite that burns both canisters and liquid fuel.
I guess I've never used the dragonfly, so I'm wondering how it's better? What makes it worth that price? I'm curious more than anything, as I'm the biggest fan of the whisperlite you'll find... |
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jimminyjay |
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I know that Seattle and many other cities do recycle the canisters. Jetboil sells a puncture tool to put a hole in your canister after you are finished so that it can be crushed and recycled. It's still less than ideal to use disposable canisters, but at least they don't have to sit in landfills.
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| Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/10/12 15:36:17 | jimminyjay |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/10/12 16:08:15 | hikingcoach |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 04/18/12 11:50:53 | BJaffke |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/10/12 23:12:45 | hrothgarbike |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 00:32:08 | skibum14 |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 10:00:48 | Harry |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 10:23:03 | hrothgarbike |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 15:38:15 | Harry |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 19:48:23 | hrothgarbike |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/11/12 19:54:08 | hrothgarbike |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/12/12 23:21:37 | John_R |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 02/13/12 09:31:23 | hrothgarbike |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 04/04/12 11:04:07 | diego017 |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 03/28/12 21:46:04 | dgriverjohnson |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 04/04/12 12:11:42 | Harry |
| Re: Canister vs Liquid Fuel | 04/18/12 14:32:58 | jimminyjay |