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Kevin_Underwood
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Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? |
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Lets hear what you pack...
What material do you pack for insulation when it drops below freezing? (Result)Cheers, Kevin Underwood
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jmohrmann |
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LOVE the Patagonia nano puff jacket. synthetic and keeps me warm and comfortable between +50 to -10
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John_R |
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I am a fleece guy, as it gets a bit wet here in the Pacific Northwest and usually not that cold. In fact I rarely wear my fleece as usually my Gore-tex jacket keeps me warm enough. I do have a new down puffy, but I haven't put it to the test yet. That might change what I carry in my pack as it is so light and packs so small.
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cwmassie |
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I'm with John R, fleece due to the rainy coastal northwest winters. I haven't head a down vest/shirt/jacket since I lived in eastern Washington or worked in Alaska. I wouldn't mind having one, but I have fleece shirt/vests and jackets of many different weights and can always find the layering system that works well.
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jcdenson |
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When I'm going on a long hike in the Appalachians. I bring a ratty old wool sweater as a layer just in case. I usually will have a capileen shirt below it and a windstop jacket over it. Nothing will keep you warmer in any condition. Itchy as all get out but it works.
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medinam2 |
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A warm baselayer and a down vest..... my back has to be warm.
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carlsonjj |
Wool | #6 | ||
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I have grown to trust the warmth that only wool provides. It creates a space of comfort that surrounds the body, it maintains its insulating properties in the wet, and best of all, it doesn't retain odors. I will often carry a down vest and jacket with me if it is a winter trip. I wear these under a Mt. Hardwear gore-tex shell to keep the wind and rain of the pac-NW at bay.
Cheers, Jonathan
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offrhodes |
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Wools socks are on my feet 99% of the time in the winter months for both work and outdoor play. Wool hats rule too.
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hikingcoach |
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I hate cold feet. Wool socks are great for the feet. I also like fleece for the upper body.
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Ish |
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In my opinion, in this day and age - fleece has no place in the backcountry. Down or synthetic all the way, it's lighter, warmer, and packs down smaller. Seems like a no brainer to me. I love Patagonia and Montbell's insulating pieces.
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Harry |
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There are some very lightweight fleece products that do work well and that pack down small. I have a microfleece Mammut base layer that packs extremely small and it also is pile resistent. I also have a Mountain Hardware thicker fleece that wicks away moisture well and is very warm, even when wet. When hiking in winter I generally wear two layers: a polyester t shirt, and my Pro shell. I put a soft shell on when I take a break. Once to my destination I put on my thicker mountain harware fleece, soft shell, 12 oz down coat, and my Pro Shell. These layers are enough to protect me to well below zero degrees. All told, they weigh very little.
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Paul_Banks |
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Start with a wicking layer. The rest depends on your build. I pack with a guy that's my height but 100 pounds heavier and he hardly wears anything ever and is in shorts down to 32 degrees.
I'm skinny as a rail. I wear many layers. Most fleece is too bulky, but some are okay. I love my body sensor by terramar long sleeve shirt. It's wicking and it has a zipped collar to control heat there. Plus the sleeves are extra long with thumb holes to keep my wrists covered. Once I stared wearing these shirts, I found I didn't need to use my mittens as much. Turns out I was losing a lot of heat at the wrists before. This shirt is great for that since one can lose a lot of heat at both neck and wrists. Speaking of mittens, I use a mazanara glove liner with Gore's Windstopper fabric. They are super thin and great under a mitten. The mittens are hot fingers with Marmot Gore-Tex shells over them. Don't screw around. Too many macho climbers are sitting in cafes telling stories about the fingers etc. that got frozen off because they were too whatever for mittens. And tie or clip those on so you can't lose them. I was once out and the thermometer bottomed out at negative twenty by eight in the evening and with the mittens, etc., I could barely move my fingers. Thank goodness I had them. The thermometer took two days to get above -20 again. For the feet, I use either a thin wool liner if it's below zero or thin silk liner if it's above. Then I'll put on a wool or Smart Wool sock over that. A range of socks is good and you can experiment with the thickness depending on the temp and the exertion. Same goes for the long underwear bottoms. I have thin, medium, and expedition weight and the thin are good to 20 degrees, then the medium to ten and the expedition to zero. Below that temp. I wear a thin pair with an expedition pair over it. Of course, Gore Tex on top of it all. For the head, I take a turtle fur balacava, but I don't use it much above zero degrees F. I do have a thin balacava I wear when it's windy and above zero. I have various stocking caps. Just got an Underarmor skull cap that is great and stretchy so it fits on my big head, but it's thin so it fits under a helmut too. A face mask is a must have if you're out mid January etc. depending where you live. If it's -15, leave no skin exposed. NONE. I've seem too many frost bitten faces on ski slopes mid January. Even then, at -15, with a face mask, I've had the area around my nostrils get frost bite and peel, so you have to be careful. And don't forget, a lot of greasy lotion can make a big difference in really cold weather. There are products with names like Face Freeze that can add a small degree of protection too. All this advice is only good to about -30. That's about where my experience ends. Maybe a Canuck or Alaskan could provide more info if you're going colder. Be careful. Have fun. |
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| Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 02/05/12 14:11:28 | Kevin_Underwood |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 02/06/12 22:52:20 | jmohrmann |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 02/14/12 16:33:50 | John_R |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 02/19/12 22:57:21 | cwmassie |
| I'm a bit old fasioned | 02/22/12 16:20:42 | jcdenson |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 02/25/12 15:24:16 | medinam2 |
| Wool | 02/28/12 10:55:19 | carlsonjj |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 03/04/12 19:45:05 | offrhodes |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 03/05/12 12:32:30 | hikingcoach |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 03/20/12 12:15:01 | Ish |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 03/20/12 13:03:01 | Harry |
| Re: Choice for Best Backpacking Insulating Layer? | 03/21/12 23:16:08 | Paul_Banks |